Warning of Global Food Crisis leads to more Global Warming Debate …

Scientists warned Thursday that climate change in coming decades will cause more floods in the Northern Hemisphere and droughts in the south and in arid areas, which may lead to a global food crisis.  Full Article

Below are a few comments I particularly liked, and received approval from the authors to post on “The Beefs”.  Interesting, if not compelling, arguments.  I look forward to your follow-up comments.

The Beefs ….  <in no particular order>

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 spindr4015 11:01:32 PM Apr 14 2008

Whenever you read “global warming”, think “global governance”.  There is no scientific consensus on global warming.  Consensus is antithetical to science.  Climate is always changing with or without man. There is no evidence to prove that manmade activities is the cause of global warming. The activities of the sun is a huge factor.  Can we control the sun?   Global warming would be a good thing especially for North Dakotans and Russians. The Medieval Warming Period (which was significantly warmer than now and no manmade Green House Gases)  was a golden age for agriculture, life spans increased and yes, Greenland was green.  There is no way to “take the temperature” of the earth.  The global warming claims are based on averaging out the world’s reporting stations.  When the Soviet Union collapsed  in 1989,  thousands of reporting stations went off-line (mostly in the frozen north) because the new Russia had more on its mind (like a collapsed economy, coups, and trying to find missing nuclear weapons) than babysitting thermometers in the Arctic circle.  Therefore, missing these perennially low temperatures, the averages went up in the 90s.  Trading carbon credits is a scam.  We are now trading something that doesn’t exist. Big  businesses  lobby for  global warming policies that will increase their profits. Politicians  benefit from these lobbyists.  Green House Gases are what makes this planet habitable.  Without them we would have the atmosphere of Mars.  Nature provides nearly all of GHGs, with volcanic eruptions, oceanic activities such as evaporation, forests and plants dying and decaying, swamps belching and cows farting.  When you hear a “scientist” making these dire predictions check to see if his degree is in “political science”.   Read “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming” for real science, not propaganda that instills fear so we will be more cooperative while parting  with more of our dollars and freedoms.  ~Naomi


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metro604c 06:47:13 PM Apr 12 2008

I’m not a liberal, nor am I a moron, but I can’t believe that all of you who are in denial here actually don’t see what is happening here. Pollution out of control, fossil fuel use at it’s highest level, China totally ignoring the rest of the world and creating an Asian cesspool, the world’s corporations and governments fabricating a rosy picture and lying their asses off, all in the name of the almighty dollar. Global change is happening, you know it is! Open your eyes…. Global warming, Ice age, famine, whatever….. We are the ones doing ourselves in and ruining the future for our children.

 

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jwvts 06:45:33 PM Apr 12 2008

You have to love the way things are bent to suit a cause.
Remember in the early days “The Planet Has a Fever” a favorite mantra of Gore, hence “Global Warming”. Only problem is the numbers, when actually looked at, didn’t quite support that statement.

Oh my God, what to do? What statement/mantra can we use? Climate change.
It’s one of those vague political statements that mean absolutely anything:
Colder, warmer, wetter, windier, drier, more storms, less storms, and the beauty of these two little words is that they really can’t be challenged. If there is a “prediction” of more or less of something, the fact that they, the people who made these assinine predictions are wrong, just blame it on “Climate Change” see it’s different than what we said. Brilliant!

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sgentilejr 06:44:26 PM Apr 12 2008

My position on the subject is that they (the environuts) should be concentrating on the “air pollution” aspects and leave Global Warning to Mother Nature. The Last Ice Age ended why?……….Global Warming….which began long before mankind had any possible relation with planet Earth warming 13,000 years ago. Our temperature measurement recordings only go back 100 to 150 years which proves nothing in the Big Picture.

 

Polluting the air we all have to breath is the real issue we should be looking at for “cost effective” ways to clean up our act. Mankind in general is just another one of the millions of species that have existed on this planet. WE like to think we are “special or so special”…but we are nothing more than just one of millions of species that have inhabited this planet….and as we all know species come and species go on this planet…nothing is permanent or lasts forever. Heat comes from solar activity. Solar flares are tracked and solar activity has been higher since the mid 1980’s…check NASA solar flare activity reports.
 
I also feel we live on a planet full of idiots. They get upset when someone lights a little cigarette…yet we willingly stand in front of a BBQ gill for a half hour or more engulfed in a cloud of smoke. Or we stand next to the exhaust of a parked running vehicle with toxic emissions that could kill in 15 minutes in a confined space and that’s OK, but someone lights a little cigarette and we go nuts.
More, better and faster efforts to contain and extinguish forest fires would do more to save the planet than anything else and NO ONE could possibly object to putting out forest fires faster and more efficiently and reduce the loss of 6 million acres on average in the USA of vegetation and property lost to forest and wild fires…instead like the idiots they are…..they go off in controversial directions. Trees and plants create oxygen and filter the air and they do it for free. They need to be protected from fires that take more trees every year than lumber operations can take in 50 years…instead they go after the lumber industry instead of going after better faster fire fighting efforts. As a nation we can buy and pay for 5,000 military helicopters to make war…but can’t find the money to buy 500 helicopters to attack forest fires when they start.  
 
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rville9755 07:14:30 PM Apr 12 2008

“may” see, “could” see, “might” be…Is that science? If this is so scientifically correct, why the use of these kinds of terms? This is scare science, song and dance, sleight of hand…these people are hoping we will react so that when global warming does not come, they will have control of our lives already. Give me liberty or give me death. Don’t violate my individual right to life, liberty and happiness for the sake of your “global” pipe dream. I say prove it. You haven’t proven anything. Science is not a consensus of so-called “scientists” with government grants. Science is proof positive and there is no proof positive that global warming is even occuring. The solution to global warming if it is real is free enterprise, not global collective slavery of every man on the planet.
 
“If a man acts according to Reason, he achieves his values.  If not, {he won’t}”  – L. Peikoff

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vin550 07:17:45 PM Apr 12 2008

Its pretty simple we are putting heat trapping gases in to our atmosphere and have doing that in increasing amounts for quite a while now. Don’t you non believers think that will catch up with us sometime soon. Bush and Cheney have played us so well, they are walking away leaving us in a pile of poop on multiple levels. Economy – in the toilet, Foreign policy – in shambles, Education – we are breeding a nation of nit wit drop outs, Military – overworked and on the brink of breaking, the list goes on and on, Environmentally God help us. Speaking of God do you think he would approve of how we are treating his creation?
 
 

 

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3 comments so far

  1. Robert on

    Heat trapping gasses, huh. Can you tell me what studies have proved that we are releasing these gases and specifically what these gases are and exactly how much of those gases are man made and how we know that more heat trapping gases will actually result in global warming? Is it really that simple or is global warming just another scam for the simple-minded. And can you also tell me, even if this fantasy was not a fantasy, what would justify our turning over our Constitutionallyt protected rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to a dictatorship of technocrats who will tell us every move to make so we don’t destroy the planet? Last I heard, most of the damage done to societies was done by socialist, communist and fascist regimes just like that fostered by the so-called scientists of environmentalism. Now, be specific, don’t just trot out a bunch of old unfounded conclusions. I don’t buy it because environmentalists haven’t proven their case by a long shot. If you want to be one of the blind men all in a row, be my guest, but I demand proof not just “simple” stupidity.

  2. gardenax on

    You’re right! I wonder wat this will be like in 20 years. Well we’ll be old! Well Im under 20, so I’ll be still young by then.

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